Now a word from the World’s Youngest Curmudgeon

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Listen, there’s a lot I respect about Ben Shapiro. He’s a great debater when it comes to arguing with SJW ninnies. And I’m sure compared to him my 147 IQ is chicken feed.

And while some folks consider him a NeverTrumper, I wouldn’t go that far.

He’s not exactly NeverTrump. He’s more like the world’s youngest curmudgeon — always finding the storm cloud inside the silver lining.

Today, the world’s youngest curmudgeon is busy tossing a soggy wet blanket over the Singapore Summit.

Nothing like calling a game at the top of the first inning.

This summit in Singapore isn’t the icing on the cake. They’ve just starting mixing the ingredients together for Pete’s sake.

Now, in the interests of full disclosure, I don’t completely disagree with the points Ben is attempting to make in that column.

One always needs to proceed with extreme caution when dealing with a dictatorial regime that has a history of deceiving us.

And we’ve seen previous Administrations try and fail at a denuclearization agreement with North Korea before.

So, sure. Caution is wise. I don’t disagree with that.

It isn’t the message that bugs me. I’ll be honest; it’s the messenger.

My issue is Ben assuming nobody else could have thought of the things he’s saying. So he needs to point them out repeatedly like he’s talking to a witless child.

To quote from the TV show “Mad Men:”

”We all know there’s a spot on the x-ray, doc. You don’t need to keep tapping your finger on it.”

Ben isn’t the only person with the answers. So why do I always get the feeling he thinks he is?

I admit. It’s my issue.

But it bugs me and it makes me less likely to listen to what he has to say.

Diplomacy is a tactic not a victory?!

I’m so glad you came along, Ben. Here I thought diplomacy was a two-door Chevy.

I sure hope President Trump and Secretary of State Pompeo aren’t spiking the football because diplomacy is not a victory.

Wait…

Well, what do you know.

Looks like the Trump Administration is fully aware that what they’ve done in Singapore was just one step and more work is needed.

It’s almost as if they already know that follow-through is required.

And as to his other gripe. President Trump smiling and shaking hands with a communist dictator isn’t unprecedented.

I suppose Trump could have punched Kim in the mouth then pantsed him.

Though I’m not sure the summit would have been any more or less successful.

Well, probably less.

Plus, the world’s youngest curmudgeon wants to toss shade on everyone who has the audacity to refer to this meeting as “historic.”

Oy, gevalt — what a curmudgeon.

Okay, fine. Just because something is unprecedented doesn’t mean it’s good.

I think that’s rather obvious, don’t you?

But weren’t you discussing the term “historic?”

When did “historic” become synonymous with “good?”

“Historic” means having importance or influence on history.

Chamberlain meeting with Hitler was an historic event – tragic and awful to be sure, but historic nonetheless. It influenced what happened next in Europe. Nobody can deny that.

The President of the United States meeting face-to-face with the leader of North Korea is, on its face, historic.

What’s the point of denying that — except to be a curmudgeon?

If President Trump does not keep the pressure on North Korea and China then this historic moment in Singapore will be wasted.

But the world’s youngest curmudgeon isn’t the only person to understand that.

I think we all would agree with that, don’t you?

And I’m certain President Trump and Secretary of State Pompeo comprehend that as well.

The truth is, it is possible to voice the same criticisms that Shapiro did without sounding like an insufferable know-it-all or a harrumphing curmudgeon.

It actually is possible to make a reasoned argument without assuming that the people you’re talking to are all stupider than you.

In fact, Mollie Hemmingway hit on a lot of the same points as the world’s youngest curmudgeon in this Twitter thread.

And she did it without mastering the art of wet-blanketry.

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32 thoughts on “Now a word from the World’s Youngest Curmudgeon

  • June 12, 2018 at 3:27 pm
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    I think you missed the point of Ben’s title by a mile. He was making fun of those Trump supporters who think he walks on water (A Masterstroke), and his detractors who thinks he is Hitler (A Horrible Debacle). Of course all this was explained in his article.

    I find it curious that many on the right find Shapiro mettlesome, a know it all, a curmudgeon, even a twit. Could at be that 99.% of the time he gets it exactly right?

    Aside from who he is or the tone used, do you disagree with anything Ben said in his piece?

    He acknowledged that this was a good first start but right now we have nothing but promises from Kim, the same empty promised we got from his dad and his grandfather. Nobody sane would not want a positive outcome out of all this and we can pray that Kim will see the light and want to eat at the grown up table with the rest of the big dogs.

    I read Ben religiously, and Molly, and Paul Joseph, they are the good guys and are on the right side. But I don’t get wrapped up in personalities, I digest what they say and make up my own mind.

    • June 12, 2018 at 3:31 pm
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      “do you disagree with anything Ben said in his piece?”

      Did you even read mine? If I’m not mistaken, I wrote:

      “Now, in the interests of full disclosure, I don’t completely disagree with the points Ben is attempting to make in that column.”

  • June 12, 2018 at 3:55 pm
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    And you also wrote;

    “He’s more like the world’s youngest curmudgeon — always finding the storm cloud inside the silver lining.”

    So what storm cloud did he find here?

    Then you wrote;

    “Today, the world’s youngest curmudgeon is busy tossing a soggy wet blanket over the Singapore Summit.”

    What wet blanket, where? You obviously have some disagreements with the piece, that is why I asked you what they were. Your ,“Now, in the interests of full disclosure, I don’t completely disagree with the points Ben is attempting to make in that column.” is insufficient in addressing those differences.

    “The truth is, it is possible to voice the same criticisms that Shapiro did without sounding like an insufferable know-it-all or a harrumphing curmudgeon.”

    Well, maybe he sounds like a harrumphing curmudgeon because he views his job as providing commentary to current events objectively and is not a ra-ra cheerleader for Trump.

    • June 12, 2018 at 4:19 pm
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      Ben says “Trump legitimizes Kim”

      Who should Trump meet with? Kim’s barber? Like it or not, Kim is the leader of North Korea. He’s a fat monster with delusions of godhood. But Trump isn’t going to get anywhere meeting with his dog-walker.

      I get it, Rich. You are a ra-ra cheerleader for Ben Shapiro. I think you missed the point of this post by a mile. I’m making fun of Ben Shapiro for being an insufferable know-it-all who thinks he walks on water.

      As Big Fur Hat put it at iotwreport.com just moments ago:
      “If only we could install these idiots into the oval office for a week and have everyone criticize every move they make, no matter what it is, they’d might have an understanding of just how much of a carbuncle they are. But I doubt it. After all, they are carbuncles.

      “The American left is as much a threat to my day to day living as Kim Phat, so when I see these dopes head nodding in unison with the left and high-fiving them in solidarity, united in their common cause of torpedoing Trump, I’m thinking they must be eradicated as well.”

  • June 12, 2018 at 4:12 pm
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    I think she already has described why he was a wet blanket. I understand what she meant without her having to guide my finger to the EXACT place as to why she thinks Ben is a wet blanket and or a curmudgeon. lol.
    Also, Paul Joseph Watson is 100% accurate with that tweet above.
    But I guess you can go to Twitter and ask PJW for more detail on that, too.

    • June 12, 2018 at 4:49 pm
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      So what you’re saying is you saw the wet blanket on the x-ray and you don’t need me to keep tapping my finger on it?

  • June 12, 2018 at 5:09 pm
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    “Ben says “Trump legitimizes Kim”

    Who should Trump meet with? Kim’s barber? Like it or not, Kim is the leader of North Korea. He’s a fat monster with delusions of godhood. But Trump isn’t going to get anywhere meeting with his dog-walker.”

    Why can’t both things be right? Shapiro was not saying don’t meet with him, he acknowledged that it was necessary and a good first step, but it clearly does legitimize him because a lawless criminal gets to pretend that he is now part of the peace process. When history repeats itself and he reverts back to the DPRK playbook of reneging on promises like they have done 5 other times before, then Kim will go back to being a human rights criminal again. But again, I hope it works out.

    “I think you missed the point of this post by a mile. I’m making fun of Ben Shapiro for being an insufferable know-it-all who thinks he walks on water.”

    Except that your first line;
    “Nothing like calling a game at the top of the first inning”, betrays the fact that you missed the point of the title…by a mile. Shapiro does not walk on water but he does come the closest to that little voice in my head. Plus I have little patience for attacks like ,”insufferable know-it-all” especially when it comes from someone right thinking. You want to argue specifics about what he wrote, I’m fine with that.

    • June 12, 2018 at 5:15 pm
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      For someone who has no patience for what I write, you sure do seem overly invested in knowing my opinion.

  • June 12, 2018 at 6:35 pm
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    So you prefer an echo chamber where everyone strokes your ego with ,”Gee, Dianny, you are so wise and have an uncanny ability to gauge the pulse of all american’s with your spot on analysis of all things political”?

    A comment here and there is not ,”overly invested”, this is a blog forchrissakes.

    I have mentioned before that I agree with most of what you write but how boring it would be if everything said everywhere was agreed to willy-nilly. Instead of ,”You go,girl” as a defacto comment, wouldn’t you prefer an occasional discussion reflecting different points of view on stuff you write?

    • June 12, 2018 at 7:32 pm
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      Yes, yes. That must be it. I want everyone to only give me strokes. It’s as if you know me.

      Wait… no.

      I write what I want to write. Sometimes people agree; sometimes they don’t. And yet either way, I go on with my life just fine.

      What does this being blog have to do with anything? Is there a rule book on owning a blog that I’m supposed to follow? Guidelines? Do’s and don’ts? Well, call me a rebel. I don’t try and emulate anybody else’s website. I write what I choose.

  • June 12, 2018 at 8:04 pm
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    oh, bless your heart, rich, now sit down and have some pecan pie and sweet tea and slow down and take a nap,,,,,,,,,you must be a yankee to be so worked up about parsing what dianny said, or didn’t say, or tried to say, or thought she said………..so just take some time, smell the jasmine, breathe deep at the aroma of fried chicken and mashed potatoes and greens coming from the kitchen, and thank God you live in the USA where you can be a yankee nitpicker

  • June 12, 2018 at 8:11 pm
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    “What does this being blog have to do with anything?”

    It means that people are free to post a comment, even if it does not align with your opinions.

    “And yet either way, I go on with my life just fine.”

    I hope so, otherwise why would you write it?

    “Guidelines? Do’s and don’ts?”

    I think so, yes, to be polite, on topic, don’t get personal, and provide something that should benefit and further the discussion. That is if a discussion is your end goal.

    • June 12, 2018 at 8:36 pm
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      I wasn’t aware those were required rules. Guess I didn’t get the memo. And if I don’t follow these rules will the website police strip me of my URL?

      What you’re describing sounds less like a website and more like a chatroom. This isn’t a chatroom. And actually, I’ve never really even thought of it as a blog. It’s just PatriotRetort.com. My end goal is the same today as it always was: conservative commentary and satire.

      • June 12, 2018 at 8:54 pm
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        But if you’re looking for a website where the comments are the highlight, I recommend iotwreport.com. You can enjoy lively debate. You think I get on your case. Honey, some iotw-ers make me look like Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm. But you sure will learn something. I’ve been an iotw comments section regular since they started in 2009. It’s never dull.

  • June 12, 2018 at 8:17 pm
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    C, now you are making me hungry.

    Does a Californian make me a Yankee?

    And as for “getting worked up”, holy smokes, a disagreement here is interpreted as getting worked up? I comment on several blogs, mainly to exchange ideas and I might learn something in the process. Is that not why you visit here?

  • June 12, 2018 at 8:30 pm
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    RICH TAYLOR

    I think you are not honest or are not aware of the facts of which you claim to speak.
    If you think Americans a bad country then you can say, “ Could at be that 99.% of the time he gets it exactly right?”. If you love America as Ron did Ben is wrong most of the time. The “metaphysics” of politics is not a “hard” science – answers are unique and always repeat ; it is subjective like a “Social” science; multiple answers ; not repeatable.

    Ben’s attacks on Ronnie’s actions (Ben is a very smart guy and never says Ronnie’s name; but the conservative policies Ronnie promulgated get Ben’s rebukes.) Ben missed the boat on trump -period. Starting with “He will get crushed.’

    A verbatim quote from Ben 3/4/16, I think Trump will get blown out in a general election.” DAILY WIRE – which is either a blog or a liberal Republican “news” outlet. No metaphysics here. Pure hard science. Don won 38 states. BTW Ben, like the Bush Clan, tells some outright lies about Ronnie in this article/post. Ben , like the Bush Clan, is a life long Republican. But a liberal, Ronnie hater, as are they. The GOP has basically been 3 parties for 120 years:
    leftist/progressive derisively referred to as GOPe. The 1st national Republican in this group had conservatives so much that when he could not remake the GOP as a leftist party he formed a 3rd party to destroy the GOP. His party was not “The Bull moose Party” it was the Progressive party. He was, as all Roosevelts have been, a “tax + spend” Republican. Nixon and the Bush clan are today’s leaders of this group.
    “middle of the road” Republicans. They care not about beliefs; they vote GOP PERIOD.
    3. Conservative. – the 1st national politician to call himself a “Conservative” was Garry G. He explains why in his book . Summarizing CONSCIENCE – Teddy hated the President who famously (if you went to grammar school 70 years ago. Teachers hide this quote the last several decades.) said, “Government spending is merely sand in the gears!”. Abe -as did the entire English speaking word – considered this to be a “liberal” believe. Teddy said Abe was a CONSERVATIVE,”… I am a progressive! I hate conservatives!” the reason Barry said he was a conservative – again the first major politician to so do – was he(Goldwater) felt that “Government spending is merely sand in the gears!”!

    Based on me reading of today’s DAILY WIRE they seem to be Republican in the Roosevelt, Bush fashion.

    .Check out the GOP convention ’64 Lots of Abe pics, I have not seen one of Teddy!

    Ronnie updated Abe’s quote in the Stu ’82 “… GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM!”!

    Ben basically repeated Trump cant win in the same place 11/7/16.

    Trump legitimized Kim. There are no two ways about it.” Verbatim from ben; again the DAILY WIRE; must be a progressive GOP site.

    Where has Ben been he last . Has he forgot Daniel Russell 8/12? Sec o State JFK 4/16? Should I list more American Government officials that had dealings – granted not “face to face” -with Kim. Our Government “legitimized” Kim over 6 years ago. Ben is once again not telling the truth.

    Ben does not tell us who are our G& allies! I think we ( the peons who pay taxes)have few if any “allies” there. If you are among the “elite” internationalist set ;then most, if not all are “allies”. To me this statement proves Ben is a leftist Republican. A life long Republican (Ben grew up near me, graduated SaMo high. Ive followed him over 20 years. I give him credit – he has been steadfast in his progressive/ Bull Moose Republicanism. With the giant exception – he lies when he says he is conservative. Only were he to say Barry + Ronnie were liberals can he honestly say the he – Ben – is conservative!

  • June 12, 2018 at 9:09 pm
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    Hey Dianny, someone should go teach Shapiro the “rules” of grammar. Have you seen him laughing about Trump writing, “To” instead of, “Too”? Well, boy wonder doesn’t know where to put the commas in his own sentences. Isn’t it just pathetic to constantly knit pick like this? It’s almost as if he’s a young curmudgeon or something. lolz

    Oh! In case you aren’t Ben Shapiro and you didn’t know what Curmudgeon meant:
    cur·mudg·eon
    [kərˈməjən]
    NOUN

    a bad-tempered person, especially an old one.
    synonyms: bad-tempered person · crank · crosspatch · sourpuss · old trout · a bear with a sore head · kvetch · sorehead

    Keep up the good work, Dianny.

    • June 12, 2018 at 9:37 pm
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      You added that last line on purpose, didn’t you?

  • June 12, 2018 at 9:17 pm
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    @ an oeJarhead
    “If you think Americans a bad country”
    Where on earth did you get that notion from anything that I wrote?

    “If you love America as Ron did Ben is wrong most of the time.”
    I haven’t a clue what you are talking about. Are you referring to Reagan? Shapiro loves Reagan;
    https://townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/2004/06/09/why-america-loves-ronald-reagan-n1009495

    “Ben missed the boat on trump -period.”
    Who didn’t? Heck I voted for Trump and I thought he was going to lose. Ben being surprised at a Trump win means nothing to me.

    “Ben is a leftist Republican.”

    You will have to flesh that out and reconcile it with the Townhall post I linked to.

    Dianny, I do post comment over at iotw, one of my favorite blogs.

  • June 12, 2018 at 9:17 pm
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    I find Benji about as annoying as Juan Williams.

  • June 12, 2018 at 9:34 pm
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    I think the Diplomat was actually a four door Dodge…

    • June 12, 2018 at 9:36 pm
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      Dammit! That’s what I get for not being a car gal.

  • June 12, 2018 at 9:48 pm
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    Rich

    If you support Ben then you either know not what Ben stands for; or you do think America is bad!

  • June 12, 2018 at 9:52 pm
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    Rich

    I have spent 15 min looking for a TownHall link!
    where is it?
    I love to fight leftist “Republicans”!

  • June 13, 2018 at 6:27 am
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    RICH
    That you for the link.

    Ben’s ’04 article is a nice puff job.
    But he does not mention what Ronnie did. How did Ronnie raise the living standards of working Americans.

    I will enumerate a few of the things Ronnie did that made America peaceful + prosperous,

    He did NOT compromise! He vetoed 78 “Nanny State” laws. Almost 150% of what 2 leftists named George did in their 12 years. He did compromise with the Tax + Spend” GOPe from Kansas . To Get Dole to vote for his ’81 + ’86 tax cuts; Ron said he would back Bobs plan to grow the Govt. 100% overnight. In ’84 Bob Made 1 govt agency 2! He took 1 tax and maLe it 2; setting the limit on one of the 2 Soc. Sec taxes at the “lazy Eight”! Ron felt that this would not have been a big deal after his
    ’86 tax cuts. Ron never in his wildest dreams imagined that 2 Presidents name George would completely undo his ’86 tax cuts; thereby weakening America’s economy and making Dole’s “Nanny State” rescue not just significant, but harmfully impactful.

    Ron submitted a ZERO (null, 0) budget for Medicare each of his 8 years as President. Doing this from ’85 to ’89 has been a sore point with Doll forever. And I agree with Dole. Ron was saying “ I may have singed the “Nanny State” bail out of Soc Sec – But I did so under duress. It was, and always will be, a bad law!” We never got rid of Medicare; but by making the left start their fight as ZERO we contained its growth. Unlike the massive growth seen the first 8 years of this century! Prior to this 6/9/04 article Ben supported the “Nanny State” expansion of Medicare – GWB’s “Part D”. Ben , I am sure, did not mention this because he , as I stated in response #1, never attacked Ron’s deeds using Rons’s name. But this is an instance of Ben being adamantly opposed to what Ron did! Not naming the man he is against.

    Ron submitted a ZERO (null, 0) budget for Dept of Education each of his 8 years as President. We never got rid of the Dept of Education ; but by making the left start their fight as ZERO we contained its growth. Unlike the massive growth seen the first 8 years of this century! Prior to this 6/9/04 article Ben supported the “Nanny State” expansion of the Dept of Education – GWB’s ’01 NCLB/“Common Core”. Again Ben attacked Ron’s deeds but never mentioned the name of the man whose deed he attacked.

    Ben talks about the thing leftists have always talked about when “praising” Ron. His acting and speaking. Ron was a great Governor + President because of what he did. Ben mentions not one thing President Reagan did! Which to Ben’s credit is consistent to his subsequent attacks on this actions of President Ron. As I noted in my opening remarks. Ben never names the man who’s actions he attacks. And in this peace he never mentions what the Governor, President Ron did. What laws he got passed, what laws he vetoed.

    Like Ron I was a conservative Dem 60 years ago. I still am conservative! As I am sure Ron would be – were he alive.

    I think Im over 200 words already. But if you need more “fleshing out” I never tire of praising conservatives’ and castigating progressive Republicans.

  • June 13, 2018 at 9:19 am
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    @an ol exjarhed

    You made a comment that Shapiro is antithetical to Reagan and his conservative philosophy. I provide a link whereby Shapiro praised Reagan to the hilt, his humanity, his humility, his sense of patriotism, he calls him a great man and all I get from you is that this was a puff piece.

    How about this;
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD0U6h1Xqk8

    Youtube any number of videos Ben did at the Reagan Ranch, there are several, all will provide ample evidence that Reagan was the impetus for Ben’s view on conservatism and American exceptionalism.

    If you are going to hold the position that Shapiro is a leftest conservative, you will have to provide evidence of that.

    • June 13, 2018 at 10:15 am
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      you can praise a man and be antithetical to his policies at the same time. the term is called “smiling through your teeth”

  • June 13, 2018 at 9:29 am
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    Dianny I think Rich Taylor has a crush on you! He keeps coming back for more!

  • June 13, 2018 at 10:50 am
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    “you can praise a man and be antithetical to his policies at the same time. the term is called “smiling through your teeth”

    Which would imply some deceit, duplicity, cowardice, or unseemly motives on Ben’s part. Even in the face of all the links I have posted saying that Shapiro reveres Reagan and is his main role model in his conservative evolution, All I have gotten here is baseless and unproven conjecture that Ben is not really a Reagan fan at all but is smiling through his teeth to mask some secret hidden antipathy. If that is what you think than provide some evidence, some links, some quotes, anything at all that supports the allegation.

    “Dianny I think Rich Taylor has a crush on you!”

    I like her posts, but anything more than that, we would have to go out for coffee first.

  • June 13, 2018 at 1:21 pm
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    Rich

    You are not reading my words! Were I drunk out of my mind I would never call the leftist Ben a “conservative”. NEVER EVER! I said over and over “He is a progressive Republican”, what Barry called a Roosevelt Republican in his 64 book.

    What I said was Ben says all the “nice things” about Ron that : ABC, CBS,CNN , NY Times, Wa Post….Say. He does not mention anything Ron did as an executive. He, like the LSM , talks about Ron’s movie and speeches. I listed 3 things Ron did as President. I then enumerated how liberal “Republicans” had enacted laws in direct opposition to what Ron as President did. Ben supported (as I recall, can not find any documentation to back up my memory..) all those “Nanny State” anti Ronnie laws.

    You imply Ben supported what the Gov. + Pres did. “I provide a link whereby Shapiro praised Reagan to the hilt, his humanity, his humility, his sense of patriotism, he calls him a great man and all I get from you is that this was a puff piece.”
    Absolutely not true! As I pointed out before and will repeat

    Ben does not mention 1 law that the President vetoed. Ben does not mention one law the President signed. Ben’s article is totally emotional. Not one hard fact. Not one deed – good or bad –
    As long as I have been able to read (70 years) the left has argued with emotion. Facts are of no matter to a progressive. Why are our “allies” not named? I suspect anyone who reports from “undisclosed” sources. Name names. Ben does not name names – other than Don. Names him often.
    Again BEN IS AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN A REPUBLICAN. NEVER HAS BEEN AND NEVER WILL BE A CONSERVATIVE. As Barry pointed out in 64, and Ron did in THE SPEECH (10/64) you can be a Republican and not be conservative. Still true 54 years later.

  • June 13, 2018 at 9:29 pm
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    oh rich, just go ahead and ask her out already you know you want to

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